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Using a "dirty wire"

Posted By Marc Webb, Friday, October 31, 2025
"Using a dirty wire"
Long and short, working in a new hospital as a corporate employee after closing my practice,
getting used to a new environment, unfamiliar staff, different assortments of balloons, wires,
grafts, suture, drains - the whole man-from-the-moon routine. One of my first cases was a
patient I'd known since 2005 who managed to get her graft removed for infection during my 9
month transition period. With the left side healing and out for the short-term at least, I planned
a right arm fistula or graft depending on intraoperative ultrasound and venography.
Ultrasound demonstrated a played-out cephalic vein, but a reasonable median antecubital/
basilic system over 5mm. I put in a sheath, and found a nice basilic vein up to the axillary,
where it disappeared into a tangle. Not to be deterred, I worked a Kumpe catheter up by slow
degrees using a 40 cm destination long sheath, recanalizing the axillary, subclavian, and right
innominant clear to the SVC. This process took over an hour. Dilated with a 4mm low-profile
balloon (the only thing that would pass), then an 8mm balloon. The result was a very ratty
channel ruptured somewhere in the upper axillary vein without much progression of injected
dye flow. "Must place stent". 
Now here is the problem - Viabahn stents available in this OR are only in a 0.018 wire
platform, and the only 0.018 wire is 260 cm long. We place the wire, then remove the exchange
catheter. In the process, the long 0.018 wire slumps off the upper side of the arm board and
OR table - not to the ground I thought, but below the drape "skirt" and it is "contaminated",
according to the vigilant C-arm operator. If I pull the wire, I am fairly sure I will never be able to
pass through the damaged territory again, especially with a ruptured axillary vein, and I will
either have to lose this opportunity to place a right arm access, wait a long time for the other
arm to heal, plan a femoral graft, or keep the patient on a permacath. Or I can wipe the wire.
I thought the risk of actual infection was very low - the patient had received Vanco, and I
wiped the wire with a saline 4 x 4, then a dilute betadiene solution, then saline again.
The moment I passed another catheter to the central end of my obstruction we pulled and
discarded the wire, but the damage was done - I had used a "dirty wire" in the mind of
whoever submitted the criticism.
So what would a "prudent operator" do in this unfortunate situation? I have already asked
for a shorter 0.018 wire.
 


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Fernando Ariza says...
Posted Saturday, November 1, 2025
I think it is probably fine, especially if it didin't actually fell to the ground, chances of infection are low and in view of the challenges w access in this patient, seems perfectly justified.

I can see myself doing the same thing in similar circumstances. Prob would've let the betadine concentrated and wipe the wire 2-3 times and then w saline as u did.

Fernando
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Alejandro C. Alvarez says...
Posted Monday, November 3, 2025
I think as I mentioned a sterile wire cutter is an excellent solution. I keep one in my office at all times.
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Alejandro C. Alvarez says...
Posted Monday, November 3, 2025
I think as I mentioned a sterile wire cutter is an excellent solution. I keep one in my office at all times.
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Suresh K. Margassery says...
Posted Sunday, November 9, 2025
Having shorter guidewires are a luxury in many circumstances off late, especially in vascular centers or hospitals were interventional cardiology folks play a major role. Using long wire with upper extremity procedures and a limited size arm-board requires astute technical expertise by the assisting scrub staff. This kind of situation happens often if not regularly and I always clean the wire with betadine followed by sterile saline and get the job done appropriately without any unfavorable outcomes, as long as the wire has not touched the floor. I think the appropriate decision has to be made depending on the complexity of the patient's procedure as you have done in this case.
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Suresh K. Margassery says...
Posted Sunday, November 9, 2025
Having shorter guidewires are a luxury in many circumstances off late, especially in vascular centers or hospitals were interventional cardiology folks play a major role. Using long wire with upper extremity procedures and a limited size arm-board requires astute technical expertise by the assisting scrub staff. This kind of situation happens often if not regularly and I always clean the wire with betadine followed by sterile saline and get the job done appropriately without any unfavorable outcomes, as long as the wire has not touched the floor. I think the appropriate decision has to be made depending on the complexity of the patient's procedure as you have done in this case.
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Suresh K. Margassery says...
Posted Sunday, November 9, 2025
Having shorter guidewires are a luxury in many circumstances off late, especially in vascular centers or hospitals were interventional cardiology folks play a major role. Using long wire with upper extremity procedures and a limited size arm-board requires astute technical expertise by the assisting scrub staff. This kind of situation happens often if not regularly and I always clean the wire with betadine followed by sterile saline and get the job done appropriately without any unfavorable outcomes, as long as the wire has not touched the floor. I think the appropriate decision has to be made depending on the complexity of the patient's procedure as you have done in this case.
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